Jeffrey Kipnis leads a discussion between Thom Mayne and Eric Owen Moss regarding their views on architecture’s relationship with politicsKipnis opens up the discussion with the premise that throughout history, architecture has primarily served people in power. Responding to Kipnis. Mayne and Eric Owen Moss debate their role as architects within the political realm. Mayne discusses his views on the nature of the city and t. he architect’s contribution to public life. Kipnis argues that Moss is individualistic and idealistic as a formalist, while Mayne is more pragmatic and idealistic as an urbanist. Kipnis asserts that multiple truths are valid, while Moss is more interested in the exception, rather than the rule, as the only truth architecture can impart to the public. Kipnis and Mayne discuss school projects as political projects. The discussion concludes with a Q&A Session, covering China, Russia, totalitarianism, social inequality, typography, e.e. cummings, Mark Z. Danielewski’s “House of Leaves,” Rem Koolhaas, and meaning and symbolism in architecture.